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0:25 - Introduction and First Memories

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Partial Transcript: Could you share a little bit about yourself? Your name, your date of birth, and your occupation?

Segment Synopsis: Cindy Clevenger talks about growing up in Elliott County and her first memories of horses. She never had horses growing up, but would look at neighbor horses. She tells about going to her grandparents' and jumping fences to pet horses. She grew up loving horses.

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6:27 - Family History with Horses

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Partial Transcript: I remember in one of our histories you talked about your great aunt or your aunt who was a school teacher who rode horseback to...

Segment Synopsis: Cindy tells about the history of her granny and great aunt riding horseback to their one room schools. Her granny would tell about the smooth ride and how the horses would calmly wait for them until school ended.These horses really helped Eastern Kentucky from falling far behind the other states in terms of education and healthcare. Cindy tells of the death of her great aunt after crossing a creek on horse back and getting sick.

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8:49 - What it means to be from Eastern Kentucky

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Partial Transcript: In terms of Eastern Kentucky and the region. Can you share with us a little bit about what it means to be from eastern Kentucky?

Segment Synopsis: Cindy has great pride in being from eastern Kentucky. She talks about the tribulations and poverty that the people of eastern Kentucky have had to fight. The mountain horses are a huge part of how the people fought these trials and hardships of living in the Appalachian Mountains.

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11:52 - What is a Mountain Horse?

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Partial Transcript: In terms of when you say about preserving these horses. What are you preserving? Can you share a little bit about what a mountain horse means to you?

Segment Synopsis: Mountain horses were the tools people used before the mechanical age. The horses were easy gaited and had an easy temperament. These horses were willing to do anything that the riders needed them to do. Cindy takes a moment to compare the easy riding of a mountain horse to her son's paint horse. The mountain horse is a smooth ride that won't hurt your back.

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14:16 - Preservation of the Breed

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Partial Transcript: And as far as preservation goes...

Segment Synopsis: Cindy talks about how she never realized that the Mountain horse wasn't everywhere. She wants to keep this breed going for those who still work with these horses. Cindy tells about how important registering horses is in preserving horse breeds. Her passion with these horses is registering all the horses in order to keep the breed going and in check. Registration gives horses an identity and preserves the true characteristics of the Mountain horse.

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19:26 - Special Moments and Stories

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Partial Transcript: And so just to continue on, in terms of our mountain horses or our gaited horses, Cindy, can you talk a little bit more about how special they are?

Segment Synopsis: Cindy talks about spending time with her horses after her dad passed away and how she felt the horses understood that something was wrong. Horses are her best friends. Cindy also talks about how she feels that she can communicate with her horses. She goes on to give a few examples of the interspecies communication she sees.

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25:08 - Co-evolving in Horses

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Partial Transcript: What did you mean by co-evolving?

Segment Synopsis: Cindy believes that the mountain horses know somehow that they came from hardships. The early geography of the Appalachian Mountains was rocky and did not have a lot of pasture. The horses had to adapt to be able to survive the lack of good food. This was much like how the Appalachian people had to adapt. The mountain horses seem to have a lot of the same attributes that the Appalachian people have developed form their hardships.

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28:47 - Importance of Mountain Horses to the Community

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Partial Transcript: Can you share a few moments when you realized how important these mountain horses were to the community?

Segment Synopsis: Cindy did not realize that the mountain horse was not everywhere until about 10 to 12 years ago. When she realized this, she also realized we needed to preserve the breed.

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30:26 - Horses Bring People Together

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Partial Transcript: Some say that horses bring people together. What are your thoughts on that?

Segment Synopsis: Cindy says she has met more people with her horses than she did in school. She talks about friendships developed over showing her horses and people stopping by to see her horses. Conversations at shows bring people together in the since of sharing breed lines and types of tack to use.

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32:04 - Future of the Mountain Horse

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Partial Transcript: In terms of the future of the horses, what would you hope the future would look like?

Segment Synopsis: Cindy hopes that people continue to breed these horses for as long as they possibly can. She also hopes that her grandson can see the importance of the Mountain horse.

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33:16 - Ballad and Musical Heritage

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Partial Transcript: What is your favorite stanza in your ballad?

Segment Synopsis: Cindy wrote a ballad telling the history of the Mountain horse and settlement of eastern Kentucky. She sings the first stanza of this ballad, her favorite stanza. Horses and music are two of Cindy's biggest passions. Cindy tells of the evolution of the mountain music within the immigration of the people. She truly believes that the people, horse, and music have all co-evolved together into a culture.

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39:42 - Kentucky Mountain Saddle Horse Association (KMSHA)

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Partial Transcript: Could you just say a little bit more about the Kentucky Mountain Saddle Horse Association?

Segment Synopsis: Cindy registers her horses with the KMSHA. She does this because she strongly believes in the philosophy of the KMSHA with breeding and preservation. The KMSHA philosophy really goes along with the philosophy of the Old Timers philosophy in breeding. The old Timers used the horses they knew could keep the breed going. Cindy also tells about times at the KMSHA shows.

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42:34 - Connection With Horses

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Partial Transcript: Do you think your relationship or connection with horses changed over the years?

Segment Synopsis: Cindy has always loved horses, but has developed a deeper appreciation for the Mountain horse over the years. She reiterates how she didn't realize how special this horses were and how this spearheaded her involvement.

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43:38 - Difficult Horses

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Partial Transcript: Some say we learn the most from difficult horses. What are your thoughts on that?

Segment Synopsis: Cindy believes this statement to be true. Not only do you learn from difficult horses, you also bond more with those horses. Cindy tells about how she learns how to fix certain attributes and trust issues. She shares a story about a particularly difficult horse and how she worked with it for a year.

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47:54 - Stories of her International Grand Champion

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Partial Transcript: Any other stories you'd like to share about your horses, especially your International Grand Champion?

Segment Synopsis: Cindy tells about breeding for her now two time International Grand Champion. Smoking Hot, or as Cindy calls him "Jack," is her prize horse after ten years.

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