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0:30 - Introduction

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Partial Transcript: Could each of you share a little bit about yourself? Your date of birth, where you were born, your occupation, and then how you got involved with the Rocky Mountain horses.

Segment Synopsis: Jackie Rose was born in Clay City, in 1944. In 1983 Jackie and Eloise bought their first horses, a Rocky and an Appaloosa. Eloise, Ellie, Rose was born in 1951 in Lexington, Kentucky. Eloise shares a story about her son's creative use of their Appaloosa.

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8:41 - Meeting Rea Swan

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Partial Transcript: Can you share just that first meeting with Rea, in terms of her coming to your farm?

Segment Synopsis: Jack and Eloise decided to become a part of the Rocky Mountain Horse Association and met with Rea to show their horse. They weren't registering at this meeting, just trying to define the breed.

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11:09 - Stories of the Old Folks

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Partial Transcript: Fonzie Graham, do you remember him? Can you share some stories?

Segment Synopsis: Jack and Eloise remember some moments with Fonzie and Larry Combs. Larry would break Fonzie's horses and was compared to a cowboy. The Roses' also tell about Junior Robinson and his time judging for the Rocky Mountain Horse Association.

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13:25 - Requirements to be a Rocky Mountain

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Partial Transcript: Did you know the horse has certain requirements they had to meet to become a Rocky Mountain horse?

Segment Synopsis: Jack shares what the Rocky Mountain Horse Association required for the horses to be registered. The stallions had to have a breed certificate. Even a foal of certified horses had to go through the certification process. Eloise tells about the growth of the Association and the start of registration days to accommodate the growing numbers of horses. Eloise was an examiner and would examine horses from her house from time to time.

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16:34 - Stories about Rea Swan

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Partial Transcript: All the people we've been talking about so far, your memories of Rea Swan. Can you share some stories?

Segment Synopsis: Eloise compliments Rea Swan on her dedication to the Association and preservation of the breed. Jack tells about how strict Rea was on registration of the horses and what she looked for. Eloise shares details on why the Association started training their own judges.

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18:24 - Demonstrating the Breed

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Partial Transcript: One year, believe it was the year I was on Stallion Row. They had a breed demonstration.

Segment Synopsis: Jack's horse won a show and was invited to show on Stallion Row at the horse park, which led to the formation of the drill team. The team started in 1993 and still goes on performs on a regular basis.

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20:17 - Promotion of the Breed

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Partial Transcript: In terms of promoting the breed, I bet that was important.

Segment Synopsis: Eloise tells how participating in drill team shows and breed parades helped to make the Rocky Mountain horse popular.

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22:59 - Gait of the Mountain Horse

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Partial Transcript: Could you share a little bit or describe the gait for us, in terms of riding a Rocky Mountain?

Segment Synopsis: Jack tells about the gait of Toco Sam and how it was his favorite gait. Jack and Eloise have two or three of Toco Sam's offspring and they have the same style of gait. However, all horses are different, some are smooth and others are a little more trotty. Jack describes where the footfall should occur for the gait.

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26:57 - Appalachian Connection

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Partial Transcript: You know, in terms about what we think about our Rocky Mountain horses of being a part of Appalachian culture. Do you consider yourself to be a part of Appalachia and if so what does that mean to you?

Segment Synopsis: Eloise talks about how much this horse worked to make the Appalachian community. Jack tells about Sam Clemens and how people would breed to his horses even before the Association started. Eloise tells about going to register the horses and not being able to understand the accent there.

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31:17 - Increased Popularity of the Breed

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Partial Transcript: When you say there was a big boom in this area when the registration was established and Rocky Mountain horses were breeding, what did you mean by a big boom?

Segment Synopsis: The horse show really impacted the popularity of riding horses, and the horse around here was the Rocky Mountain. Jack tells about the journey of classes to show the Rocky Mountains.

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36:28 - Horses Bringing People Together

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Partial Transcript: Some say that horses bring people together, what are your thoughts on that?

Segment Synopsis: Eloise shares the ups and downs of being apart of the association and how that can either bring people together or pull them apart. Jack and Eloise agree that things change in the association and that the horses are the best part of the association.

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37:47 - Start of the Rocky Mountain Horse Association

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Partial Transcript: We talked a little bit about the Rocky Mountain Horse Association. Can you tell me a little more about that first meeting when everyone got together?

Segment Synopsis: 50 or 60 horse people showed up for the very first Rocky Mountain Horse Association. This meeting took place in 1986 in Winchester, Kentucky. Eloise isn't sure how many horses were involved in the first registration.

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42:18 - Color Doesn't Make the Horse

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Partial Transcript: Some have said that the Rocky Mountain horse is just a color. What are your thoughts on that?

Segment Synopsis: As examiners, Jack and Eloise really see the controversy of the color a lot. Eloise says that the chocolate with flaxen mane and tail was a great gimmick to increase sales. Jack mentions how the chocolate would down play the red horses, which wasn't necessary. Eloise does mention that they fell for the color during the start of their drill team. They wanted the colors to closely match.

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44:59 - Temperament of the Horse

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Partial Transcript: We've also heard, again, that the even tempered nature of the Rocky Mountain horse or gaited horses in general, may be misleading. What are your thoughts on that?

Segment Synopsis: Eloise tells a story about the time her foal broke it's leg and how the vet technicians were so cautious in the trailer even though the mare and foal didn't move at all. Not all gaited horses have that temperament, but you can breed for that even temper.

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52:18 - Difficult Horses

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Partial Transcript: Some say we learn the most as horsemen and women when we work with difficult horses. What are your thoughts on that? Does it apply to our mountain horses?

Segment Synopsis: Eloise says you do learn, but its also dangerous to work with difficult horses. Jack mentions that a lot of the time people teach the horse bad habits before you get the horse. Eloise warns about getting a horse that was kid-broke. Children aren't experienced enough to properly break a horse so they let the horses do what they want.

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54:18 - Relationship or Connection with Horses Over the Years

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Partial Transcript: Do you think that your relationship or your connection to horses has changed over the years?

Segment Synopsis: Eloise tells about how working with horses causes you to relate everything to horses. Working with horses even helps with human relationships.

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55:54 - Good Horsemen and Women

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Partial Transcript: And then he stopped and said, "I guess if you're good with horses that means you're probably good with people also." What are your thoughts on that?

Segment Synopsis: Being a good horseman doesn't always mean you're good with people. Eloise also mentions how being good trainer doesn't mean you're a good horseman. Jack believes the treatment of a horse shows the character of the horseman or woman. Eloise and Jack share the story of how Jack would work with a particular stallion during breeding.

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60:38 - Learning from the Old Timers

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Partial Transcript: You know in terms of sharing some of that, that horse knowledge across generations, bringing new people into the breed. Can you talk a little bit, that seems like a common theme that people learn from Eugene Sebastian or Gordon Layton. Could you share a little bit?

Segment Synopsis: Jack tells about learning from Carl and Fonzie the most. He would go visit them and learn from them by watching their interactions with their horses.

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63:00 - Intentional Growth of Horses

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Partial Transcript: Tell her about Phil Vaughn

Segment Synopsis: Eloise tells about taking an exchange student from France trail riding on a Rocky Mountain and how much he loved the experience and the Rocky Mountain Horse. This prompts the question about what Eloise and Jack think about the international popularity of the breed. Jack mentions that he believed that the Association was coming out with a book about the history of the breed and certain winning horses.

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65:26 - Advice for Future Horsemen

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Partial Transcript: Advice for anybody who might want to get into our Rocky Mountain horses who is new to the breed, in terms of pointing them into the right direction?

Segment Synopsis: Jack promotes the breed as the breed that has it all. Eloise tells a story about a woman buying a horse that wanted a waiver that the horse wouldn't either buck or kick. This shows that people should realize that horses are animals, and nobody can exactly predict what they will do. Eloise then tells about selling a horse to a 12 year old child and how that turned out.

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68:07 - Last Remarks

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Partial Transcript: Well is there anything that we should cover? In terms of other stories.

Segment Synopsis: Jack tells about how he had to quit after some medical issues and orders from his doctor. Eloise tells about how grateful for the time she's spent with horses. Jack tells about Eloise putting on the Rocky Mountain Horse Shows for a few years, with a lot of help. Eloise tells about the struggles during that time and the growing pains the breed went through. They talk about plans to go to the shows again just to see people.

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